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branden stombaugh (Stolib)
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Username: Stolib
Post Number: 40
Registered: 4-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2005 - 10:32 pm: | 
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For what it's worth, I'm sold on the garlic chicken livers. Read about it here a couple of weeks ago and thought I'd try it. Dumped the tub of livers in a big bowl and added garlic salt until all the blood was about the consistency of real thin sheetrock mud. Put the whole mess back in the tub and it wound up sitting in the frige for a week until I had a chance to fish. I was using those livers, crawdads, and big carp minnows. The only thing I had bites on all day was the livers. Nothing huge (couple of 5 pounders were the biggest), but that was all the fish wanted to eat. Oh, and to keep them on the hook, just wound sewing thread around them until they were tied to the hook good. (Another tip from here). |
Matt Hardbarger (Teaysvalleyguy)
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Username: Teaysvalleyguy
Post Number: 13790
Registered: 8-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2005 - 10:46 pm: |
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Branden great to hear that you are having luck with them Garlic Livers. Try to cure them and you wont even need that thread. Works great for me. Good luck the rest of the year.
Stinkbait is great, daughter makes it every day for me.
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Jerry Trew (Jtrew)
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Username: Jtrew
Post Number: 5454
Registered: 3-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 23, 2005 - 8:22 am: |
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Just remember that cured chicken livers aren't a magic bait that ALWAYS works (nothing is). Sometimes it works great; sometimes fair; and sometimes not at all. IMO, it's a good backup bait to have along. Kind of like having more than one bullet in your pistol.
Jerry, Little Rock, Arkansas
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branden stombaugh (Stolib)
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Username: Stolib
Post Number: 42
Registered: 4-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 23, 2005 - 8:24 am: |
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Thanks. I live in a duplex right now. Haven't had a chance to cure them out in the sun as the kids are always playing outside. Don't want to have to explain to another parent (or my wife) why a kid is covered in chicken livers lol. I did put some in the broiler for a couple of minutes a side, but they got too done. Other than the mess, I like he way these raw ones bleed, also. |
christopher rice (Upland)
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Username: Upland
Post Number: 53
Registered: 3-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, May 29, 2005 - 7:10 pm: |
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over Here in ontario I use the beef liver for 2 reasons first is it's much cheaper then chicken liver and I have caught more fish off of one piece. |
Karen Hancock (Casper)
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Username: Casper
Post Number: 1
Registered: 5-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 30, 2005 - 12:38 pm: |
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 Another newbie here with what is probably a stupid question: What's the cheapest/most effective way to keep chicken livers on the hook. Half the time I end up with the liver flying one way and the hook going the other. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. |
Ian Alexander Collie (Kittykiller)
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Username: Kittykiller
Post Number: 517
Registered: 4-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 30, 2005 - 4:27 pm: |
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Welcome to the BOC, Karen! I like to use about a 4/0 treble hook, push the eye up through the liver then tie or attach to swivel. This way the treble "cradles" the liver. Also, dig around your tub for the firmer pieces, all the leftovers when you're done can be used as dip bait, added to dip bait, or used as chum. Or cure your livers as described by other members to make them firmer. In addition, use a cast that is as gentle as possible.
Lookit them whiskers!!!
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Terry Petry (Flatheadchaser)
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Username: Flatheadchaser
Post Number: 45
Registered: 6-2002
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 11:00 pm: |
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Hi Everybody!!!!
This is how i rig when i use chicken liver. and you dont have to cure them. If you dont want to.
first run your line through the eye of your hook. make a half hitch. over the barb of your hook. do not pull it tight. pinch the loop you made. between your fingers and hold the loop. take your tag end. wrap it around the shank of the hook six times. between your finger and below the eye of your hook. now run the tag end through the loop you made. pull your tag end to draw the knot tight. it should look like this.
now you can push your main line through the eye of your hook. it will make a bait loop. if you have trouble pushing your line throught the eye. you can slide the knot down the shank of the hook alittle. that will make it easer to pust your line throught the eye. if you had to slide the knot make sure you slide it back up to the eye of the hook. once you have the loop. it will look like this.
once you have the bait loop made. cut your liver to the size you want to use. run the liver half way throught the loop. then pull your line back tight. it will hold the liver on good. the baited hook will look sorta like this.
by the way i use a hook with a turned eye. and with out bait holders for this.
Tight Lines To All!!!!!
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Jeff Cabe (Hut234)
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Username: Hut234
Post Number: 271
Registered: 2-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 1, 2005 - 2:02 am: |
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Great post Terry, that took some time and effort!
Jeff Cabe
Sumter, South Carolina
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TRACEY SMITH (Trippyclwn)
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Username: Trippyclwn
Post Number: 298
Registered: 5-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 6, 2005 - 11:11 pm: |
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i would rather just buy the beef liver but can it be cured also for more potency? just wondering if anyone tried it before.
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Sharon Ouellette (Midflagal)
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Username: Midflagal
Post Number: 9
Registered: 6-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 7, 2005 - 7:50 pm: |
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We use panty hose, yep you read that right, take the toe off old pantyhose, put the livers in it, tie to hook with hook just barely out (so they have a chance to grab it) the hook goes in the 'sack' this makes a neat little package and you dont lose as much liver.
Bent Poles
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joshua michael straub (Catfishunter1)
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 6-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 7, 2005 - 10:57 pm: |
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I go catfishing atleast 2 times a week and I will never go with out chicken liver. I do not cure it or put pantyhose on it or anything like that. I always use a swivel and I take my trebble hook off ever time that I bait up my hook, slide the chicken liver over the end of the hook and then reattach the hook. This way I very rearly throw any chicken liver off. |
Matt Hardbarger (Teaysvalleyguy)
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Username: Teaysvalleyguy
Post Number: 14163
Registered: 8-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 7, 2005 - 11:11 pm: |
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Joshua welcome to the BOC, always great to have another new member. If you ever have any questions feel free to ask.
Stinkbait is great, daughter makes it every day for me.
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tony spergin (Tspergin)
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Post Number: 17
Registered: 6-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 7, 2005 - 11:59 pm: |
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hey tea next time you get to fish this area let me know and maybe we can catch some cats I will show you some spots at dillon and when I get the boat ready for the water we can do some serious fishing lol |
Matt Hardbarger (Teaysvalleyguy)
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Username: Teaysvalleyguy
Post Number: 14167
Registered: 8-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 8, 2005 - 12:16 am: |
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Sounds good, I will post when I am heading out that way again.
Stinkbait is great, daughter makes it every day for me.
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Ian Alexander Collie (Kittykiller)
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Username: Kittykiller
Post Number: 607
Registered: 4-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 8, 2005 - 12:44 am: |
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Welcome to the BOC, Joshua! That's how I rig my livers, too.
Lookit them whiskers!!!
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Patrick Roberts (Catfishpat)
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 7-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, June 10, 2005 - 8:59 pm: |
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YOU JUST GOT TO BE EASY WITH THEM AND HOOK THEM IN THE VAINE MEMBRAINE OF THE LIVER AND CAST IT OUT SOFTLEY.THAT WORKS FOR ME EVERY TIME... |
Tom Flynn (Froggiestyle)
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Post Number: 91
Registered: 4-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 9:28 am: |
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There are good and bad points to using thread for Chicken liver.
The good point is that it does stay on better, and dramatically increases your chances of landing fish when you get bites.
The bad points that I noticed is that after you get alot of bites, and catching fish you have a bunch of knotted thread on your hook, and if your getting alot of bites you tend not to want to spend alot of time cutting old knotted thread off, and taking the time to knot and rewrap thread around liver. Plus, when your hand and thread is soaked in liver blood, it takes more time to make knots because the thread sticks to itself makeing in a little more difficult to loop knots. And if your getting alot of bites you don't want to spend alot of time rewrapping liver on a hook.
frOg
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Kevin Ogilvie (Catmankev)
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Post Number: 3
Registered: 5-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 11:40 am: |
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Greetings all,
I would like to know, how long can you store cured chicken livers? What do you store them in, and where do you store them? |
Darrell Summers (Darrells)
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Post Number: 12
Registered: 5-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 2:08 pm: |
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Spent all day yesterday, curing my first batch of chicken liver and since it wasn't done yet, I left it out all night and was going to finish it today. When I woke up this morning, we were having a thunderstorm. I guess I could pull it out of the trash and see if I can dry it out but I don't know if it can be salvaged. Besides, I used all my garlic salt.
It seems like way to much work for me. The smell and fighting the flys and bees all day was no fun and all the garlic salt that I used could've seasoned my Italian food for five years.
I've used the pantyhose trick before but not for chicken liver (small grass shrimp for Sturgeon) and I have a bunch of netting and wire for Salmon eggs but I don't think I want to waste it on chicken liver. |
Jerry Trew (Jtrew)
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Post Number: 5563
Registered: 3-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 10:28 am: |
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Livers will last a year or longer if you keep them in a fridge. After curing, I put mine in a ziploc bag, put the bag into an empty plastic coffee canister, and put it in the fridge.
Jerry, Little Rock, Arkansas
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Kevin Ogilvie (Catmankev)
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Post Number: 4
Registered: 5-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 5:58 pm: |
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Thanks Jtrew I'm gonna cure some this week and give em a try saturday. |
ryan rinck (One_at_a_time)
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Username: One_at_a_time
Post Number: 207
Registered: 5-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 - 8:18 am: |
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let us know how it goes kevin |
Jim Smith (Hoytville)
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Post Number: 2
Registered: 3-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 - 1:19 pm: |
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Heading out tonight to use some cured livers from last year. They still smell gooooood too ...... |
Darrell Summers (Darrells)
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Post Number: 17
Registered: 5-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2005 - 3:29 am: |
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Well. I was able to salvage the ones I was curing Sunday. Took them out Tuesday and tried them. Not a single bite. I think I'll stick to fresh chicken liver.
Oh, they did stay on the hook the whole time. |
ryan rinck (One_at_a_time)
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Username: One_at_a_time
Post Number: 217
Registered: 5-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2005 - 9:09 am: |
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Good idea Darrell |
daniel burney (Slimepig)
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Post Number: 36
Registered: 2-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, June 18, 2005 - 1:35 pm: |
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terry, what software program did you draw your illustrations with? That was awesome. |
David Folsom (Ansalander)
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 5-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, June 19, 2005 - 5:48 pm: |
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I like the treble hook idea Josh (Taking it off the swivel and putting the eye through the liver).
I like to keep it semi-frozen until I hook it. Buy it the day before and cut it into pieces the size you want. Freeze it. Throw it in the cooler when you go out. Don't leave in the freezer any longer though, otherwise it will be solid as a brick and useless until it thaws (which could be a long time in some climates...)
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ryan rinck (One_at_a_time)
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Username: One_at_a_time
Post Number: 237
Registered: 5-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 20, 2005 - 11:44 am: |
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I tried the treble hook idea and it didnt work very wel for me, maybe it was because it was to thawed out |
Doug Eggleston (Eggman)
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Post Number: 3133
Registered: 7-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 2:33 am: |
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First of all guys, the chicken liver you buy at the grocery store has already been froze at least once, probably twice. The best you can do is use it thawed from the store or better yet order it special from a meat shop....{I have one that gets fresh, never frozen chicken liver in every wednesday), you would not believe how the fresh liver wraps around a spring treble. The more liver has been frozen or if it is just too old (check the SELL BY DATE) It just disenegrates on the hook and falls off before the fish can even get a sniff.....been there, done that....
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eggman in Central Missouri
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Danny Bruce Estep Jr (Arkansaswhiteskin)
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Username: Arkansaswhiteskin
Post Number: 9
Registered: 6-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 7:04 pm: |
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Hey yall, new member here! Thanks for allowing me to become a member. I love this site! Thanks for the tip Doug. I am for sure gonna head to the local meat shop as soon as I get done with my tour in Korea. I am a die-hard liver user. Those store bought livers work now, but I bet those fresh(never-frozen) ones are twice as good. You can bet, if it'll catch me more kitties, I'm gonna try it. Thanks again. |
Andrew Baird (Old_yeller)
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Post Number: 3
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 7:29 pm: |
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Chicken liver is great bait. You never catch the monster on liver, dough, stink, or any kind of bait like that. I will share the method I figured out to be the most effective for liver. It requires more prep than a treble hook with a swivel, but I think it works much better. With this method you can catch the turtles that always steal your bait, the little ones, and the nibblers. Here it is: Tie a swivel connector onto your line. Attach very small but stout hooks to the swivel with a 4-8 inch lead. You can buy those hooks already tied at the store, or tie them to pieces of line and then tie a loop into all of the lines at once. I use 3-4 hooks. I like the ones just bigger than perch hooks. Sometimes they are called trout hooks. No hook-setting required, just wait till they eat it, that's what I had in mind when I came up with it. Give it a shot, I always keep at least one pole rigged up like this for liver and call it my one pole machine gun, cause I lay waste to 'em with it. |
David Folsom (Ansalander)
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Post Number: 13
Registered: 5-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 12:16 am: |
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I tried my freezing the liver trick the other day and overdid it. It took longer to thaw than I thought it would. Nothing like having your own trick fail on you. Once it did thaw though, it stayed on real good. Still pretty firm, not like that "been out in the sun" liver-jello that flys off the hook no matter what you do.
I used to buy it frozen and it would thaw in the way to the fishing hole, so I know it can work better though.
I've got to try that fresh liver trick. The firmer the liver the better, I say.
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